I was actually trying to figure out how to change the name/title of my sitch, but couldn't? I need to reflect one more of moving on. OTM, I appreciate where you are coming from but I'm getting tired of false hope. My H left 15 months ago and has not shown one iota of wanting to work on the M; I think I have no choice but to move on. He hasn't even been a friend to me most of this time..and while I felt optimistic about our lunch, i think he's back to his old ways of passively waiting for me to take action. After being in limbo-land for over a year, I'm tired of waiting for him to come around. And while the thought of officially ending it does still provoke a bit of panic (and a lot of sadness when I remember the good times) it's not really a M now anyway. I don't think he's reconsidering, and frankly, if he is, wouldn't my stepping up to the plate here ('tough love', demanding a bit more respect, doing what's best for me) really bring that out in the open? I almost think it's the action that I have to take now in either case...moving on for me (b/c I am just about here anyway) and also if he were to ever 'wake up' (but I'm not doing it for the latter). I don't see how the consequences of my actions would push him away further at this point - as Pearl and others have rightfully told me, he is already gone. Of course it would be nice to be able to DB realistically a bit more here, but at this point I don't think there is anything I can proactively do to save the M, but accepting the reality of my situation and doing what's best for me at this point.