feel like giving up - talk to me!

[Gardener]

luv, this silent lurker agrees completely with mindfull and ST.

I wish he'd wake up before it's too late too.

He may never. And it may already be.

And for you to consider:

"If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always gotten."

This is what keeps me going crushed - knowing guys like you are out there!

There are a lot of us men like crushed out there. We fill these boards every bit as much as you good, decent, loving, committed women out there do.

To oversimplify and generalize, we weren't appreciated this time. But we will be the next time!