feel like giving up - talk to me!

[S.T. _I Made It!]

Mind is exactly right. Look, i am not going to be that cheerleader right now so put your hard hat on. Unfortunately some of us will only try to help for so long if we don't see that you are REALLY listening. It's okay to not make good choices here and there, but I have rarely seen you make a good choice and follow the advice given. I know this is hard, believe me, we ALL KNOW. and for some of us, we've been in WORSE sitches.

I'm sorry to tell you, it's going to get worse, and it seems that it will only be then, when you REALLY hit a crisis that maybe your eyes will open.

we DO love you, and we can see the big picture, and your stuck in the middle, but you won't help yourself out. It just makes me sick to think how much hope you have in your sitch and that you are still stuck doing the same thing.


mind talked about the things he did wrong and what actions you did not do, I'm going to talk about the things he did right.

So...we were walking back to the car by this cool bar he says, "hey you wanna sit and have a beer?" this was goodI said ok. this could be good depending how you said it. were you excited or were you blah. We were there for 4 hours! We talked about matter of fact stuff and as it got later talked a little bit about R. There wasn't a whole lot said but he told me he didn't feel love from me (he's told me that before)This is SOOO good, 4 hours! you guys must have been enjoying yourself, and him saying this is a great step to communicating. my best friend just had the same comment told to her last weekend and you know what she told him (because she has heard my story for 3 years, she was somewhat prepared when her bomb hit her last week. she said "I understand, I really never have given myself to you fully, I have been really hardened to protect myself." She amazed me, and she's on the step to healing already. He also said, "do you know how it feels to be sleeping on the couch?" I said, "it's your choice to be there." He talked a little bit about the future (visiting my sister) and his job and stuff. I do not believe anything he says. His actions clearly speak he doesn't want our R to work. Why are you saying you don't believe him? true, we can't believe everything they say, but he was opening up to you. If he didn't care for you he wouldn't give a crap. So when he said he hadn't felt love from you, why not say, "I understand. Has there ever been a time where you felt loved by me? do you mind telling me what I was doing different then?" and you mention he has said this before. well, I know why and you know why, so let's try to gain understanding for his feelings instead of focusing on your own.


Anyway....he started touching me and saying he's always been attracted to me blah blah are you serious? everyone on here would be dying to have their WAS touching them. Like Mind said, are you really here to try to save your M, or just gain sympathy? we really want to help you save your M, and I know that you can, but I don't know what else to say to you, or what we can do so that you will understand. We went home and he slept in my bed - literally. Well do not be waiting to give me my 2x4's cuz I already gave um to myself.

please, don't listen to us for us, listen to us for YOU and your kids.