It took a lot of hounding but also a couple of sit down talks to get somethings to change. Things aren't perfect but they are getting better. S17 has to do the trahs and S14 the dishes. S17 was already good about doing laundry but mostly did his own stuff for work.
S14 just sort of started in on his own and has been making a lot of progress though he tends to just throw things away without knowing what they are. We are working on that.
The girls try to keep on their room and help with dinner and pick up after themselves as much as they can. All of the kids have been making their lunches the night before for several years now. I guess I am a bit further along with them than I thought.
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Me-53(and learning!) S24, S21, D18, D17 Just keep swimming, Just keep swimming. Dory