Thankyou for your replies Forward and Trusting. Forward I havent discussed mlc with son, son has worked out for himself all through this that there is something wrong with dad, and as they started talking last year one of sons comments was, " I do hope hes woken up" out of mouths of babes eh, he as also commented throughout about dads mood swings and him not being the same dad he was before, think in sons own world he as sussed something out. Trusting I would like to think it is start of reconnection but I would think it is guilt that is popping up, but we will see