The reason that I say that I believe the OM thing is winding down is because I still have access to some of their communication. I'm not proud of myself about that, I think it's wrong, but there it is. He believes that she's written him off.
Funny - this past Monday, we had a therapy appt at 1:30, and I knew this guy was in town that day wanted to have lunch with her. So I asked her, why don't we have lunch before the appt, to see what she's say. She immediately agreed.
Anyway, this isn't definitive, and it's not the whole picture, and in the end W is unpredictable and I don't have a whole lot of trust about anything in this arena. But I don't think that changes what I need to do now. Gucci, I won't be surprised if I'm wrong. But hell, just more reason to proceed forward, enforce boundaries, establish the parameters of the S/D.
Bill's right, there have been some things I've said about this to W that have been damaging. I'm glad that I exposed it, but there have been times in discussion where I've made this a focus when maybe I shouldn't have.
Puppy, I liked the essay. God, there's a lot of repair that would be needed. Trust, resentment - all those elements. Well.
W actually said at one point that she's not up for doing all that work. Not being trusted, it would never be the same, etc.
I know for my part - I'd be willing to do it. But that's not where we are right now.