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patpat, this is excellent. Just excellent.
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((((luv))))
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I have tried...I really have...anyone who knows me even says, "I can't believe how well you've done through this." I guess the "trying" doesn't work though. I know.
Luv, you have been hurting alot lately, for a long while.... longer than I. All I can say to you my dear is that sometimes love hurts. It truely is hard when your H continually makes bad choices that impact your life and the lives of those around you (ur children). You naturally respond by color:#FF0000]trying[/color] to get your life back on track. You keep trying to fix the things your H has choosen to do, the things you yourself did not break. It really is painful to stand by and watch H self-destruct. Remember, H is doing this. This is not something that you are doing to him. H must suffer the consequence and you need to force his hand.
When you try and try to help, over and over and over, but never see any progress - then it is time for you (((luv))) to make a decision. Here's the thing, sometimes to show love to H is to just stop trying.
You also need to know this my dear, even though you may have to physically walk away from H, your heart never stops loving. Now, the only thing you can do here is to trust H to God.
The way to detach luv is to just stop trying.
Everyone asks, "how do you detach without detaching"? Everyone asks this question. The question really is this, "how can you stop hurting and not stop loving"?
The answer is and always has been to stop color:#FF0000]trying[/color].

My personal take on this is that your H does know you are a great mother, a good wife, and a compassionate friend. I think he needs you more than he will admit. Maybe this is why he plays the games he plays, says the things he says etc... H knows your heart better than you do. H knows your heart will always be there. H knows you will always love him. H knows you will always try. H does not know that you know how to 180 your life. Luv, just let the try die.

He knows you are trying hard to save the M. This gives H all the control. H knows that you are thinking with your heart and not your head. So, I say just "give him some head".... (no pun intended)

Like G, ST and Rob have told you the same in no lesser words...

Take your life back. Take it away from H. If he misses it, H will come after it... H will know where to find you.... you will be right behind an open door, as we all are here.
Listen, heed and do it, luv. Just. Do. It. And monitor the results. You will more than likely be amazed. And happier. And at Peace.
Do what patpat. says.


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"My soul, be satisfied with flowers,
With fruit, with weeds even; but gather them
In the one garden you may call your own."
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I'm going to Gardener...I'm going to take my life back from my H who stole it.

I'm waking up this morning feeling just a little crappy but I'm ok. I just feel H is in an affair and that's why all of this has happened.

Last night he didn't come home till 9:45. He is always coming home late now. I really don't get as upset as before. I have just accepted it and a part of me doesn't care or is just sick of it.

I'm going to pull back now like never before.


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Luv.

I should have picked you up on the way to the salon! 2 for 1 special on all waxing and facial services!

I tanned. Im getting a pedi now, and nails filled next!

Guess ill have to wax AND microderm!

Did you smile?


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1- workout
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3 - dinner with a friend


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Originally Posted By: luvless
3 - dinner with a friend

No b1tching allowed! You go out to HAVE FUN! If your friend starts whining you tell her, "Have you ever realized that we never take the time to look at the good things in life? Instead we sit here and find fault all the time. Isn't it wonderful that we can take a break? Let's do it! Let's change this dynamic, here and now!"

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I hear you G! No b*tch sessions.


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3 - dinner with a friend

No b1tching allowed! You go out to HAVE FUN! If your friend starts whining you tell her, "Have you ever realized that we never take the time to look at the good things in life? Instead we sit here and find fault all the time. Isn't it wonderful that we can take a break? Let's do it! Let's change this dynamic, here and now!"


You know what we call it when we go out without bitching?

Dating.

We bitch, period.

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We bitch, period.

I can see how the two go hand in hand. laugh

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We bitch, period.

I can see how the two go hand in hand. laugh


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