Originally Posted By: stuck808
Oh and I had told her before I had been seeing someone. She really didn't have a response to it.

I just need something to shake her out of the fog a bit. I think if she would have seen my friend and I in bed together, that would've done it! LOL


Not all caught up so I'm going to assume you mean this, right? I mean, you at least think it's possible that jealousy could arouse something in her or at least awareness you are great catch.??

Okay regardless, be a man only a fool would leave.

=You're busy doing fun things with new interesting people and going to exciting new places, and you are a great catch!! BE ONE!! I'd be a fun friendly guy with her, warm, contrasting her negative images of you with positives.
Remind me or tell me why she was "afraid" of you?

And is she cutting off contact with the kids unless YOU make it happen? There's ONLY ONE reason for a woman to do that and it's GUILT...she must feel like crap. Remember too, you have a balancing act to do. You want to keep the road home paved and smooth so she actually can visualize you guys making the M work and that it would be different and better this time. So somehow she has to know your feelings could be rekindled (LIKE HERS COULD BE, IF SHE"D GIVE IT A CHANCE!!) while also showing her you are moving on now and having a blast...

You can basically do the attitude of showing her that you have accepted her regrettable decision, that you wish things were different of course b/c of the kids and your history and that you still love her and always will, and that if you had it to do over again, you'd handle things differently.

BUT since you are a changed man you are not going to wallow in what you did wrong, b/c those problems are now solved, and you are a better man for it, etc. And you are making room in your heart for OW sometime...not so far away... Make sense? I'd be warm, without pursuing.

And those loving interactions with the kids--keep them up---ALWAYS matters. ANd it's the right thing to do anyhow. Also, I would have SOME family time with all of you around, while also showing her a glimpse of the upside to YOU or YOU being single...let her guess. As for OW, is there one? If so, be careful you don't hurt someone else in the process of trying to make your m work. But then, as long as you are honest, I think it does work in some cases and heck, if you are honest with OW, what's the harm? (I am also assuming you are NOT involving the OW with your kids yet, so they are protected...)

If you have an idea of who you were when your w first fell in love with you, then be him again. But wiser, and let me know how it goes. I have to re-read your thread to know what else is going on I just read the past few days. Anything major I need to know that is different? Last time, awhile ago, she was unsure but wavering...is there OM or is she getting meds or seeing a c or T?

What is it, she SAYS is her reason? That she "Fell out of love" and there's NOTHING she can do about it? Such crap....good Lord, Love is a choice. And it ain't always an easy one!

More later, but fill me in...
j-


M: 57 H: 60
M: 35 yrs
S30,D28,D19
H off to Alaska 2006
Recon 7/07- 8/08
*2016*
X = "ALASKA 2.0"
GROUND HOG DAY
I File D 10/16
OW
DIV 2/26/2018
X marries OW 5/2016

= CLOSURE 4 ME
Embrace the Change