feel like giving up - talk to me!

[S.T. _I Made It!]

don't have time to read everything now...but I saw this.

I haven't been on the forums in a while but reading your thread from beginning to end I finally realized you've been trying so hard, pursuing, controlling your conversations, tip toeing around him, trying to be the better spouse, doing nice things, and yet all of this good behavior on your part gets you..... NOTHING!

I'm sorry, but this I disagree with. granted luv, I know you have been trying, I don't discredit that one bit. But, it's how we try that makes a difference. I think your H had been trying too, but again, it's how you try that makes a difference. Just the fact that he was still there means he was trying.

so, anyways, I really feel that you have not done any of this 100% like G said, and before trying all these different things, I think you need to just start DBing for real. stop chasing him, stop caring what he's doing, start caring about what YOU are doing. Be cordial and polite with him, do not ignore him, but be busy making YOUR life worth living.