Not sure what Nathan or Tom know, but I appreciate you remembering their names! Nathan is our Nathan's namesake.
Dan has told Doug, one of his cattle partners, who he went to Denver with a couple weeks ago, that we are separated. He said he actually cried in front of him and told him his inner turmoil stuff. Even admitted the cheating. And Doug is pretty pro-marriage, has been married 25+ years himself. Tom has been married 25+ years. And Nathan has been married for 13 years...
Funny...Nathan was with Dan and Doug in Denver. Apparently someone asked Dan if he was Nathan's father (their birthdays are 7 days apart, actually, same year!!). That's how Dan realized this whole thing has aged him...
Actually those married 'mentors' haven't helped, yet. Dan has heard them over the years talk/bitch about their wives, the stuff some guys think they are supposed to do when they are with other guys. I am sure nothing major, none of them have had addictions, infidelity, etc that I know of.
Anyway Dan said when he got back from Denver, that both of our parents are poster children for shitty marriages. And hearing Doug and Nathan talk he can tell they "put up with" a lot from their wives.
Add in my oldest sister who is a total bitch to her husband (who btw has some explosive rage disorder after coming home from the war so he once threatened to rip the leg off a table and beat my sister with it ). Add in Dan's middle sister who is on the verge of D with her own husband (thanks in large part to the total crap SIL learned from MIL about marriage and MIL's meddling)...he pretty much says he doesn't see a happy marriage anywhere which gives him little hope.