rr22 - I think you and I both need to give H's more time to work out their anger and pain - it's not for us to fix. Yes, it is worse since they left, but we can't make them see that. They are "foggy". When they show signs of coming around, we can know they might be reasonable - until then, they need wide berths. Just remember our dear LR - she was dark for six or more weeks to give H time to feel his own stuff without putting it on her. And he came back around because she took care of herself without pressuring H for a thing. This is admirable and tough, but it actually is required if they are ever going to find their way out of the fog.
