Ok, I just found your answer on mb28 thread. I think motherof3 gave you some answers that will work. If your H is as depressed as you state he may not be as capable of proceeding with the divorce or separation as you give him credit for. I don't know. However do not grease the wheels of divorce. Do not do anything that would help him. As far as conversation I understand that you have small children. Try to keep the conversation to a minimum and act like he is a business partner. You state that your DB'ing is working. GOOD. Try to stay on that path. You have changed things and gotten some small results. Even if those results are only that the D talk has stopped. There does not have to be evidence of an A in order for it to be a MLC. In fact I would guess that it probably is a MLC. Have I given you the MLC resources? If not I will be glad to give you some more links. There is a lot to learn. There are no quick fixes. This can be a very long process.