I am never coming back !!!!!!!!

[K4D]

K4 and IRMAC,

I believe in the power of prayer, I have seen its glory.

However, praying for God to change someone's mind...that goes against the tenant of Free Will.

It also diminshes your role, and makes it so you do not have to put in the sweat equity to change for the better. It is...
lame to not expect that you should improve yourself, and makes God or His Will the fall guy.

I wonder what would happen if you combined the two.
Hard work on self improvement and hard prayer?

God is my co-pilot, because it is not only hubris to expect Him to drive, but when I get to heaven He is going to ask me what the heck I was thinking letting go of the wheel on the turnpike.

Jack. I agree with the hardwork and prayer. But to say that God can't lead someone one way or another. I disagree here. How many people has God lead back to Him because others prayed for them? Quite a few. God can do the impossible as he states Himself. But work must also come from within us to. And I have seen many M's restored through prayer and work. So I know that God does work in people's lives to turn them one direction or another.

Kevin