forward, thanks for your reply. I wouldnt think ex will try and do me another favour, I think in a way what happened yesterday was me doing ex a favour, he was definately hiding up the side street in the car and was early so he knew we would be walking past that way, due to the fact that wherever he goes nowadays he is late, he was half an hour early, and I think the fact that he hid to catch us walking past was merely because he didnt want to be on his own going into school, but whatever the reason I am glad he came to parents day for sons sake, and son was glad too. son is indeed a lot happier than he was for some 3 years or so. we will see how the road progresses, as I said I sat next to ex yesterday and didnt fell anything towards him and that is hard to say coming from someone that loved that man with all my heart, but no there is nothing there,