Thanks again Gardner...He is not married...do not know how his mom would take to knowing her son is in an affair with a married woman though...yeah I guess I could tell everybody...seems to be the one thing she has been very vehement about is please do not let our mutual friends know what she is doing...of course she tries to turn it around by saying she has not told anyone my part in this but you know what. I'VE ALREADY DONE THAT and it is NO SKIN OFF MY BACK!!! I will check out those posts tonight. Thanks again...