Going straight forward...antlers 6th thread.

[antlers]

Yep, I agree that the book presents techniques that are not just applicable to kids.

Read your post. Sorry. The hard fact is that they wanted to do it more than they didn't want to do it. And they still want to do it...or they'd stop it.

We didn't want this, and they know it. They did want it.


ps - it's never too late to start doing what's right....for anybody!