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Not wanting to ever give up.

See that quote.

Start to believe it about yourself.

That post before just made me mad as hell. Stupid fogged comments like that.


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I know cutter. Thank you very much. I did tell her to ask OM for the money.


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Looking to see if I can get Smartcookie or Sandi2 or another former WAW to weigh in as well.


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I will reread and study this thread again. Do what works they say. That is the part I am still lost on. What works in this sitch. I am getting to the point where I am less scared of losing. That being said I still want to save my M if I can. Panic mode is not working. Some of the 180's are working some are not. Need a better plan.


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Looking to see if I can get Smartcookie or Sandi2 or another former WAW to weigh in as well.


I don't think you want to hear what I have to say.


It is not about what you feel should work in your M. It is about doing the work that gets the right results. Do what works!
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I do. I need a good head kicking. I am willing to fight for the M and know that I need to never give up no matter how bad it looks. I have read the success stories and some have taken as long as two years. I know I have made mistakes. So kick away.


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I may not want to hear the critics but I need to hear them. I will make more mistakes but I need to make less of them than before. I am learning. I am afraid and it makes me stupid. Am I the only one to ever be in this position?

Whether I want to hear or not a question. I must hear. I have reread this whole thread 3 times now. I will reread it again. I need as much help as I can get.

This is the first time I have encountered this and don't know how to handle it.

All help is welcome. I have read and will continue to read until this begins to sink in. I also have friends (a couple) who went through this 10 years ago trying to read this thread and help me.

Thank you so very much in advance.


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Originally Posted By: loveherstill
I will reread and study this thread again.

Please do and post your notes up here for everyone to see. And Sandi's gonna give you a good a$$-kicking too. So be prepared for a long post from her.


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One more thing... reading and re-reading does NOT help. Coming up with a plan from what you have read DOES!

So, post your notes here... and also add what you think your plan should be.

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Originally Posted By: loveherstill
I do. I need a good head kicking. I am willing to fight for the M and know that I need to never give up no matter how bad it looks. I have read the success stories and some have taken as long as two years. I know I have made mistakes. So kick away.

You dont need an a$$ kicking just a jar of vaseline. buck 99 @ walgreens. Before you have any interaction with your wife: JUST Do IT. It might help you to look at this situation seriously and consciously from here on out.

REALIZE...as long as you have this silly attitude that you will never give up no matter how bad it looks you are doomed to fail. Spend a bit of time reading some threads from some of the guys and girls who have been at this a year or two. Read what they have said a year ago: "never give up no matter how bad it looks" read what they are saying today: "never give up no matter how bad it looks." They are now laying boundarys down about cell phones and child care and this whoop-dee-doo or that. How pathetic. It doesnt work! They are crying. You are crying. They are sympathizing with you. You them. But where are you all? 2 bucks at walgreens once a week? A 25 dollar dildo replacing the one with cracks? Your spouse sees right through this. They are not on heroin! None of this is working for any of you.

When your spouse is in the midst of an affair, they are having the time of their life. There really isnt any confusion other than you (the a$$hole F'ing up their affair). There isnt any sadness. I dont know anyone who was sad while orgasming. Do you? They are growing as spiritual living human beings as you are plotting ways to supress their growth to be depressed like you. They do not want that. Why should you????????

I am going to tell you a story although people might get bent out of shape and or have a heart attack over....

I knew this women, brunette, nice legs, bit t!ts. we worked together. she was the office slut. did almost every guy that came and went. the first daughter looked like her husband, last name ended with a vowel; grandfather made his riches in red wine vinegar. second had red hair. third kid blond and blue eyes. Husband never gave up no matter how bad it looked. Get the picture. (I am hesitant to say anymore. there is a reality to all of this.)

Sometimes you need to take some time for yourself and develop into the person you are suppose to be no matter what your marital situation.

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