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You did well, (((((mindfull))))).

I'm not sure he did as well. If anything, he belittled your concerns. Even if he isn't doing anything illicit, I didn't hear him respect your concerns.

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VH - He told me he understood. And, I think he did.


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You did it, Mind. High fives!!!

How are you going to deal with the lack of intimacy? Any ideas yet?


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You did a great job Mind but I do feel he minimized your feelings. Did you feel that or did it seem like he was actually empathizing?


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Guys, I may not have communicated it enough, but... (H is not a feelings guy AT ALL), so he did acknowledge them, and that was all you get from him. That's as warm and fuzzy as he is.


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Thank you, Kara!!! One thing at a time! LoL

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Have you ever mentioned the phrase "Open Relationship" while talking to your husband? And

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I don't think H belittled her feelings.... it's hard for me to explain, but he's probably shocked that this small thing was that hard to come to him to talk about it.

AND...fyi, you needed to be more precise. you asked him to consider your feelings...but what does that mean??? what would he need to do, in order for you to feel more trusting towards him, and not be resentful? this part you left out.

SOOOO, your going to have to be careful, because he may not know what he should do, and because he told you the reasons, he may not change what he does. so I would not expect a big change on this one.


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and the last few pages have had me cracking up!!! you are so funny girl!!

on the shower banter...I don't think it was that bad. BUT, G is right, it's not really productive behavior. However, because of what happened later, it doesn't seem to be that bad because things still went well. and if it is something that seldom happens, then I wouldn't worry about it too much.

just do be careful on the bantering...if it's being sarcastic, or jokingly putting him down..that will eventually be a bad thing IMHO, even if they get a laugh out of it.


Me 33 H 34 S9 S3
M 6 yrs (2gether 11 yrs)
EA/PA 1/2006
DB 5/2006
H wants D 6/2006
H wants ME 8/2006
H "said" PA/EA over 8/2006
H erased OW off phone! 2/2007

"It is far better 2 choose humility & change oneself, than 2 wait in vain trying 2 chang someone else."
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