I think you are missing what some of us are trying to say.

Even if divorce is your choice you are welcome here. Maybe you can give us insight and we can give you insight. Being a WAS IS NOT WRONG or a sin. Being a LBS is not wrong or a sin.

As to the point I made earlier if you are wanting basic insight as to what a LBS goes through this *is* a good resource (even if our goal is not divorce) because the majority of posters here *are* LBS. It just seems you don't like what the LBS are telling you and that is cool but it doesn't mean we are lying or trying to manipulate. We are just telling you what *we* did to cope and grow through a very painful experience.

Think of the very basic functions of past civilizations ( and I do believe this meets your request of a general discussion). From an anthropological standpoint even cavemen figured out survival first, betterment second. Hundreds of decades later not much has changed. We need to survive first, better our lives second. We all have different time lines for that.

RobX might have a timeline of 10 years and yours might be 10 minutes. Who is more right? It is very individual.

If you really have no idea how to find a good therapist for your children why not ask their pediatrician for rec's. Or their school counselor. I don't have children myself but maybe those would be good places to start.

You can still get support here as the WAS who sees divorce as their only option. You will just have to accept if you post a thought it might be challenged. Not to ridicule you and make you feel bad but we All challenge each other. It is not WAS vs. LBS around here. It is people from all walks of life that are in a very painful place.