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The second I read your W's proposal I thought about the Brazil case as well. If your W wants the children to be exposed to other cultures tell her to take them to a museum!


Right! Also, this is a big country. She can give the kids plenty of exposure to different cultures right here in the USA. Once they leave this country, I have no power or control over what happens to them, and I can't accept that, given the circumstances. Intel I've gotten told me that OM sent my W an application for citizenship in his country.

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The "formula" my attny helped me establish was as follows:

1. What I am 110% unwilling under any circumstance to bend on

2. What I might possibly bend on if the counter offer is appropriate

3. Things I am willing to bend on (which essentially were not important to me and merely created leverage and a false sense of goodwill with my H)


Sounds like a good plan. I've already started to separate her proposal into those three groups.

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I am so sorry you have to deal with all of this. I know it is so easy to say "do this" and "don't do that" but I wish I would have followed my attnys plan from the get go (NOT talking to H). Especially if opposing counsel does not practice law in a "clean" way. And sadly, in this state most WAS who are in an affair and have lots at stake (and I don't mean money) will retain the "snake" attny as they are in the wrong and unlike most states, our state *is* a "fault" state.

I am not sure how to give you my contact info but if you ever need any moral support as you navigate through this mess of a family court system find me on the boards. I can really relate to it being a very difficult journey.


Thanks much CityGirl. I am learning how unfortunately terrible the laws are in this state around divorce. If I can't get the mediation to work, it's going to get very ugly, and very expensive.

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Stay strong and keep in mind your W is *really* missing out!


That's the thing I can't seem to let go of. We have a great time together. Why isn't that enough, at least for us to build on? Even in the face of all this, we built up many good memories over the last year. Taking the kids to baseball games, taking them to local festivals, movies, playing games, watching them do sports. Plus, just her and I have gone out several times and had a ball together. What is the problem???????? Why isn't it enough for her? If we hated each other and had a bad vibe when we were around each other, then I could understand just wanting to end this, but it just doesn't make sense.