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about the alcohol. I'm not sure if he really has a problem, yet. He obviously is stressed and is using it to deal. If the kids complain, he's not going to quit. what adult man wants to obey his compaining kids? I would drop any complaining and try to come up with a creative action the kids can do if he does it again. either leave the room, or write a funny sign, or maybe they should ask their dad for a drink! lol jus kidn. and then when he comes back have them try it.

I would say suggest trying to eliminate any stress at home and try to make the house a fun place to be...with or without H. Act as if...fake it till you make it. speaking of the house...is it tidy or messy? that will make a big difference too.


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ST - my H has been a jerk - it's hard to be nice to a jerk. I have listened and expressed to him that I am here and I want to understand what he's going through. I've been supportive. I have...but he has been cold and distant towards me leaving me to believe he is in an EA with ow or even more.

He told me his LL is personal touch but we aren't close. He is distant right now so that is just hard to do. I tend to believe he is manipulating me with the back and forth stuff. I mean his being nice...then not...it's just as confusing for me!

I'm trying to take a step back this week and just try and forget about our R and have a little fun. It's a much needed break from him.

I see the little ways he is trying too but he's got to try harder just like I am. This is a mess and can't get fixed by trying "just a little."

I am trying so hard to give H the benefit of the doubt but his actions are screaming louder than his words.

He has text me a couple times since yesterday - basic stuff - i landed - going to lunch - etc...one call at night (he always calls me when he goes to his room) i made it short - said i was at dinner - he text me right after that "going to bed :)" i didn't know what to make of that happy face.

I guess what I have been doing isn't working so it's time to change some things when he gets back. I believe this is just BAD communication between us. He is thinking one thing and I the other...we are too busy thinking for each other.

Thanks so much for your input I appreciate your time very much.


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Originally Posted By: S.T. _I Made It!
about the alcohol. I'm not sure if he really has a problem, yet. He obviously is stressed and is using it to deal. If the kids complain, he's not going to quit. what adult man wants to obey his compaining kids? I would drop any complaining and try to come up with a creative action the kids can do if he does it again. either leave the room, or write a funny sign, or maybe they should ask their dad for a drink! lol jus kidn. and then when he comes back have them try it.

I would say suggest trying to eliminate any stress at home and try to make the house a fun place to be...with or without H. Act as if...fake it till you make it. speaking of the house...is it tidy or messy? that will make a big difference too.


My house is always pretty neat - and yes I know about the kids complaining about the alcohol - they do it to me sometimes too and I'm like what? but H is getting drunk - not just having a couple drinks..that's the difference of what makes the kids upset.

It's my turn to put on the biggest Act as if when he gets back. I need to turn the table and get my power back. I am not good living in limboland.


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Originally Posted By: luvless
I tend to believe he is manipulating me with the back and forth stuff. I mean his being nice...then not...it's just as confusing for me!

And you're doing the exact same thing. You're flip-flopping all over the show. Trying this... then jumping to that... then something else...

If there is one thing you can start off doing Luv it's this:

BECOME CONSISTENT

and you'll only be able to do that once you figure out EXACTLY what you want make a decision to get it and then work all-out for it.

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"be consistent..."

I thought that DB taught that you stop doing what isn't working.

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Originally Posted By: Kimmie Lee
I thought that DB taught that you stop doing what isn't working.


It also tells you to record and monitor your results so you can figure out WHY it doesn't work.


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Originally Posted By: Kimmie Lee
"be consistent..."
I thought that DB taught that you stop doing what isn't working.

Um... how can you stop doing what isn't working if you don't do it long enough to see if it isn't working? That's what I mean by being consistent.

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Originally Posted By: Gnosis
Originally Posted By: Kimmie Lee
"be consistent..."
I thought that DB taught that you stop doing what isn't working.

Um... how can you stop doing what isn't working if you don't do it long enough to see if it isn't working? That's what I mean by being consistent.


This, too.


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got it guys...got it.


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