No offense GIMA. I notice misogyny not just on this thread, but several others. There is a thinking that is becoming stronger on the boards to dominate the women, ignore their wants or desires, and go play the field. I understand that many men do need to reclaim their balls because they have let the women get the upper hand in the marriages. But it is possible to go too far in the other direction. We need to keep in mind that our goal is the restoration of marriages where possible, not divorce.