I know what you are saying about the mom and dad thing but they really despise her for what she has done. They tell me I am being to understadning. My parents live out on town so this is an infrequent occurrence but I do think not having some kind of R with one another will be more harmful than good, especially for the kids. If the W was willing to do something simple like say I am sorry, that would help. However, I do not think she believes she is doing anything worng.