feel like giving up - talk to me!

[Gnosis]

Sunday morning he initiates (I was listening G)

To what? LOL.

duh..sex...you said, "stop initiating."

Oh! Gee, sometimes I don't Gno what I'm talking about... other times I forget.

I know I'm being sarcastic but seriously. He has been a royal jerk in every way so I'm still weary.

Like I said, it takes time to change behavior. Remember this quesion? How do you eat an elephant? One piece at a time.

I am going to continue being positive and definately will back off a little.

Good.

He still kept saying he felt alot of burden and he is not going through a mid life crisis - but I think otherwise even though I don't tell him that.

Keep listening. Start validating. "I can see how you may have felt like that" etc. Good job on biting your tongue and NOT REACTING to his words.

I didn't do anything different this Sat/Sun guys - it was all him - what I love about my H - he was just being him but I don't know what sparked this.

DUH!!!! C'mon Luuuuuuuuuv!!!

When you're blowing up a wall do you stand right next to a stick of dynamite and light the fuse?
NO!

You place the dynamite against the wall. Run a LONG fuse to your shelter and light it. Then you take cover, stick your fingers in your ears and wait for the BIG BANG... (Sat night pun intended (evil grin))

The movie? got him thinking?..maybe it's been that I've been listening to him? - he feels I've actually listened? - I just don't know yet.

All of the above... including the "If you want out, just leave" speech a while ago. Eating the elephant remember? Its not one single little thing, it's an accumulated effort.

G - you give Mr. Luv more credit than he deserves - I think

Yup, I do. Wanna know why? Because he's trying. For trying, he deserves my benefit of the doubt.

BUT I will still be the better person and be here and try to be supportive.

Yes you WILL.

Oh yeah..forgot to tell you...he says to me at the bar, "look I know my wife is hot..I've been watching this guy over here looking at you all night and it's getting on my nerves." LOL whatever

SMACK! (for the "whatever") Dang girl are you blind or what?

Ask the other ladies here what they would give to hear that from their H's lips?

C'mon... go ahead... ask them... I dare you!

what would I do without you?

Don't give me all the credit, there are a lot of other people who have given you the same or similar good advice. And don't forget someone else... YOU.

- You have made the changes.
- You are trying.
- You are here.

Oh, the answer to your question: "Continue to make both your lives miserable." (evil grin and wink)