All-in-all I'm smiling Luv.

I'm going to point out the good signs here, blow-by-blow so you can get it into TuffLuv's stubborn little head, OK? wink

Originally Posted By: luvless
Christmas Eve - he left work at 11:30 - I thought we were gonna have a good day and he was just a jerk - ugh.

Because he doesn't know what the heck to do...

Originally Posted By: luvless
Christmas morning I had a hard time wanting to be near him or open anything he got me - he was a little nicer.

Uh huh... your body language signaling "stay the hell away from me" ... he picked up on it... and what did he do? He was trying... by being nicer.

Originally Posted By: luvless
He got me this really cute card that said something like I wished on a star and found you - yeah right (sarcastic luv)

Right on sister! What a putz! I mean who cares that he took time out of his day to go to a Hallmark store. What an idiot he is to read through the cards until he finds one with a message that reflects what he feels. Geez, does this moron think that a romantic message on a card will mean something? I guess that media hype he is exposed to everyday truly is misleading. Oops... sorry sucka... Luv don't hear you anymore.

Originally Posted By: luvless
We went to my moms - he was a little distant but not like the day before.

When someone is distant it means one of two things: (a) he's uncomfortable with the people around him and doesn't want to be there or (b) he wants to join in but doesn't feel welcome or wanted. My assumption is (b) because you've most certainly communicated his bad behavior to your family and your actions with him earlier on also led him to believe this.

Originally Posted By: luvless
Saturday morning we went to see "It's Complicated" he wanted to see something else but he went anyway.

Yeah, what an idiot! What would possess him to try PLEASE you? How dare he try to connect with you like that!

On a serious note: He sacrificed his own wants for yours. This doesn't sound like a man who doesn't care about you.

Originally Posted By: luvless
While we were getting ready he had mentioned to me about this new theatre that has lounge chairs and serves drinks/dinner while you watch a movie.

Duh! Someone should have warned him that this was a romantic setting. Wait! Someone probably already did. More to follow....

Originally Posted By: luvless
We went to lunch then came home.

Really? Let's see: Xmas Eve, Xmas morning, Xmas day, Sat morning, Sat lunch... plans for Sat evening.

Luv, I have to admit, you're 100% right! This sounds exactly like a jerk who can't stand to be near you and wants out of the relationship.

Originally Posted By: luvless
He calls for me to stand next to him and he's petting my back. He goes to kiss me

Yep, this man hates your guts!

Originally Posted By: luvless
I go to my room and couple mins later he follows. H shuts n locks the door behind him and I'm like what are you doing? He wants so I oblige smile

Uggggh!!!! The NERVE of this guy!!!! I can't believe it. He REALLY HATES you doesn't he?

Originally Posted By: luvless
We left early so we could have a drink before.

How dare he!

Originally Posted By: luvless
Omg you guys this place was awesome. It was like going to a vip nightclub but it was a theatre. The lighting...the girls waiting for you as you enter...sitting and getting a drink with lit candles..seriously..too nice.

Where the heck did he get an idea that girls LOOOOOVE this stuff... Gee... I wonder what he was trying to say... can you guess?

Nope? OK, lemme explain it to you: This is what a DAM does to show you how much he cares and wants to be with you.

Originally Posted By: luvless
While we watched the movie he held my hand (hasn't reached out to me at all) ...afterwards we went to a sushi bar and had a beer - nice place. We were at an area where there are shops/bars/stores...really nice. We had never been.

OMG!!! The sheer audacity of this heartless monster!!!!! How dare he!!!!

Originally Posted By: luvless
Anyway...when we left the theatre he held my hand - we walked around went to a sushi bar then to another bar to have a beer.

What a jerk!

Originally Posted By: luvless
This is where he started R talk! He said, "ya know that movie today scared the hell out of me." LOL (it's complicated) He said, "I don't wanna be like that..I know that will happen to me."

SHOCK!!! shocked WTF??!!!?? Is he trying to communicate? I don't believe it.

Originally Posted By: luvless
He continues talking about this one part (where the kids are on the bed) all crying cuz their parents are split - he said, "that broke my heart and I don't want my kids to go through that."

Pay attention Luv. That's a very important point there. Store it somewhere. [This is one of his fears]

Originally Posted By: luvless
OH I forgot!...he mentioned sex was not one of his LL's LOL - had to come back and edit for that one smile

How many kids have you got again? Is his name Joseph?

Originally Posted By: luvless
He keeps on talking and we talk about the R. I asked him, "have you thought about leaving?" He said, "no." He starts to tear up and I assure him I am here for you. We talked alot of serious stuff - laughed a little.

All sarcasm and wit aside now. This is good to news to hear Luv. Really good news.

Originally Posted By: luvless
We left - he held my hand the entire time. I drove he rubbed my back while I was driving (all the while I'm wondering where the alien went) he left my H behind! We got home and went to sleep.

This is what happens when you start to communicate and listen. It's called "CONNECTION."

Originally Posted By: luvless
Sunday morning he initiates smile (I was listening G)

To what? LOL.

Originally Posted By: luvless
then we went to breakfast (mexican yum) Last year was the first time we started leaving the kids. It's been years that we have experienced getting up and leaving without a sitter - too weird for us but it's been nice.

And the DAM appreciates it because it doesn't have to be programmed and scheduled. It's good to be able to be spontaneous.

Originally Posted By: luvless
So...Sunday he is VERY affectionate...all day.

Absolutely SHOCKING!!!!

Originally Posted By: luvless
I'm perplexed yet welcome it. I am affectionate back.

Thank God!

Originally Posted By: luvless
He wants me to be next to him (he is painting these little guys with my son (almost 19) but he wants me to sit next to him...so I do (bored but I do) lol

What!!!! He wants you near him? Quick, call in the priest! We need an exorcism right away!

Originally Posted By: luvless
We go to bed - no goodnight or anything so weird after all of that...but not complaining.

On a more serious note... the two of you have spent years building the resentment toward each other. He needs some time to register. He can't believe all this is happening. Give him some time... AND DON'T CHANGE anything you've been doing so far.

Originally Posted By: luvless
I need you guys' imput!...I know I can't believe anything he says and half of what he does but seriously...I'm really CONFUSED.


Be PATIENT now. You've made a big crack the ice. Don't give up your changes in behavior. Back off a LITTLE bit. Give him a little space. Let it register in his mind. Let it sink in.

During that time you work on yourself to get rid of as much of the resentment that you can. I hope all the sarcasm in most of the commentary sinks in.

You're making progress here Luv. Congratulations. Keep it up. And be cautious. Don't forget that these changes you are doing have to be permanent. Not for him but for YOU... because you're a happier, better and more attractive woman with them.

Last edited by Gnosis; 12/28/09 04:52 PM. Reason: fixed quotes