Originally Posted By: Junco

I think SP and Kettricken make good points re: the continuum of revealtion. It seems that you are looking for a large scale truth-dump where all the gory details are brought out in one shot. You want 100% honesty and after two years of fighting, showing strength and growing as a person, you deserve nothing less than 100% honesty. The problem with honesty is that it is really sort of a nebulous concept. You can never really know if someone is being 100% honest, even in a healthy relationship. If she came to you and confessed 100 affairs and gave million details, you would still have a feeling in the back of your mind that maybe that wasn't the whole story. Don't get me wrong, I am a details kind of guy and I won't move forward with my W (if we ever get to that point) without some serious sharing on her part.

IMO, your W needs to admit something at this point and show remorse, for me, that would be the minimum cover charge to get in the reconcilliation door. I think the continuum approach is good and instead of looking at the quantity of the effort, maybe a better measure of her commitment is the quality and consistency of her efforts over the coming months.


Junco tell me you own a bar or a nightclub,
when you talk like that you make it sound so simple, LOL!

I think you're on the right track, honesty is a nebulous concept but that being said, it isn't an outdated concept. It's bad to be honest nowadays, everyone has to lie, everyone has to put on a face, we have to mislead, we have to be more than what we are because heaven forbid, we just be ourselves, no one would accept us for that ;-)

I want honesty, million details? maybe not but honest none the less, and I'll get it either by her admitting the "gory" details (did she kill someone?) or by her not admitting anything as in who, what, where and when - I'll be ok either way, her... not so much so.