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"Captain save a HO",

Your friends are so funny.

I am curious why you still love your XGF considering that she cheated on you, stole from you and is a meth head.

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Originally Posted By: KerryK
"Captain save a HO", nice huh whistle

Your friends are so funny. aren't they smirk

I am curious why you still love your XGF considering that she cheated on you, stole from you and is a meth head.


Had this conversation with my mother a few days back.

Do you quit loving a child going down the wrong path? Wouldn't you hate the actions and consequences but still have the love?

I fell in love with this woman unconditionally, that doesn't go away for me.

I get angry and don't like her right now and would never defend her for this. I will, however, stand strong in my own character and integrity.

I fall in love for ever, simple as that. It's the reason I still love my X's and always will.

Don't like them much right now though... mad whistle

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Being an art teacher, I had to "borrow" the French thief story for FB...

Sorry about the woman-troubles.

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Originally Posted By: Donna...Found
Being an art teacher, I had to "borrow" the French thief story for FB...

Sorry about the woman-troubles.


Feel free to borrow anything except, of course, my luck with the opposite sex. whistle

Guess i've been lying low today missing the good times and companionship.
Funny how I took it for granted.

Thanks for caring

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Drafting Guys over 60----this is funny & obviously written by a Former Soldier-

I am over 60 and the Armed Forces thinks I'm too old to track down terrorists. You can't be older than 42 to join the military. They've got the whole thing ass-backwards. Instead of sending 18-year olds off to fight, they ought to take us old guys. You shouldn't be able to
join a military unit until you're at least 35.

For starters: Researchers say 18-year-olds think about sex every 10 seconds. Old guys only think about sex a couple of times a day, leaving us more than 28,000 additional seconds per day to concentrate on the enemy.

Young guys haven't lived long enough to be cranky, and a cranky soldier is a dangerous soldier. 'My back hurts! I can't sleep, I'm tired and hungry' We are impatient and maybe letting us kill some a$$hole that desperately deserves it will make us feel better and shut us up for a while.

An 18-year-old doesn't even like to get up before 10 a..m. Old guys always get up early to pee so what the hell. Besides, like I said, 'I'm tired and can't sleep and since I'm already up, I may as well be up killing some fanatical s**-o*-*-b****.

If captured we couldn't spill the beans because we'd forget where we put them. In fact, name, rank, and serial number would be a real brainteaser.

Boot camp would be easier for old guys.. We're used to getting screamed and yelled at and we're used to soft food. We've also developed an appreciation for guns. We've been using them for years as an excuse to get out of the house, away from the screaming and yelling.

They could lighten up on the obstacle course however. I've been in combat and didn't see a single 20-foot wall with rope hanging over the side, nor did I ever do any pushups after completing basic training.

Actually, the running part is kind of a waste of energy, too. I've never seen anyone outrun a bullet.

An 18-year-old has the whole world ahead of him. He's still learning to shave, to start up a conversation with a pretty girl. He still hasn't figured out that a baseball cap has a brim to shade his eyes, not the back of his head..

These are all great reasons to keep our kids at home to learn a little more about life before sending them off into harm's way..

Let us old guys track down those dirty rotten coward terrorists. The last thing an enemy would want to see is a couple of million pissed off old farts with attitudes and automatic weapons who know that their best years are already behind them.

***How about recruiting Women over 50 ....in menopause!!!
You think Men have attitudes !!! Ohhhhhhhhhhhh my God!!!

If nothing else, put them on border patrol..... They will have it secured the first night!


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Cire, did you ever read Dr. James Dobson's book...."Tough Love"? I guess my idea of love lines up with his. A parent can't stop being a "parent" when their child goes down the wrong path......aNd we do keep loving them. But the way we respond to them may differ. But, when it comes to adults in a R, I just don't see taking some of this stuff as being what people call unconditional love.

To me, you are saying that you will love her no matter how much cr@p she piles on you. Can you expect a woman to love a man she can treat that way? If you do.....then I need to tell you something about women. They won't. She may need you....and use you....and even tell you that she loves you, but she won't...b/c she can't respect you.

Unconditional love in a MR is like if your S was in a car accident and was left paralyzed from the neck down. You wouldn't walk away and leave her based on the fact that she couldn't be the healthy person she use to be.

I know a lot of people don't see it the way I do, but I do not agree with allowing the other person in the MR to treat you any way they please and you keep allowing them to get away with it and they know you aren't going to change your mind about them.

If she knows that she can do that and you will continue to love her unconditionally.....what about boundaries? Can you have any boundaries if there are no conditions?


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Let us old guys track down those dirty rotten coward terrorists. The last thing an enemy would want to see is a couple of million pissed off old farts with attitudes and automatic weapons who know that their best years are already behind them.


How true........

On 9/11, I was in NYC. The police commandeered a bus and drove several of us physicians downtown. My W, then, called me on my cell phone and begged me to get off the bus and not go..that we had an infant son that needed a father. I told her I had to, that there were Americans hurt and injured ('old fart' that I was in my forties).....

Hope you are well.

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Hi Sandi

No, I haven't read the book.

I agree with you in that there won't be respect if i'm a doormat. When she is acting like she is now she's the one who loses out. I'm not going to help someone who won't help themselves.

The analogy of being paralyzed is a good one. Let me take that a step further. If the hurt person refuses to go and do the work in therapy and is just a lump feeling sorry for themselves would you go the extra mile for them? I would still hold out that a tough love approach may be in order.

So, can't you still love and stand back and watch.

I have my conditions in all this mess. I will not be a bank account nor a parachute. I do love her and continue to pray for her but this is out of my hands. If she straightens out her act and can treat me with the respect I deserve then the door to possibility is open.

Never say never right?

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Cuervo Christmas Cookies



Got this out of the Canadian Lakes email newletter we get each day and thought you might enjoy a little Christmas Cheer!!!




Cuervo Christmas Cookies
>From Paul & Mary Ann Twigg
We have personally tested this recipe and it is easy and truly scrumptious!
1 cup of water
1 tsp baking soda
1 cup of sugar
1 tsp salt
1 cup or brown sugar
4 large eggs
1 cup nuts
2 cups of dried fruit
1 bottle Jose Cuervo Tequila
Sample the Cuervo to check the quality and make sure it is room temperature. Before pouring into mixture. Check Cuervo again to make sure it has not changed temperature by pouring one level cup and drink.
Turn on the electric mixer. Beat one cup of butter in a large fluffy bowl.
Add one peastoon of sugar. Beat again. At this point it's best to make sure the Cuervo is still ok, try another cup just in case.
Turn off the mixerer thingy.
Break 2 leggs and add to the bowl and chuck in the cup of dried fruit.
Pick the frigging fruit off the floor.
Mix on the turner.
If the fried druit gets stuck in the beaters just pry it loose with a drewscriver.
Sample the Cuervo to check for tonsisticity.
Next, sift two cups of salt, or something. Who cares.
Check the Jose Cuervo.. Now shift the lemon juice and strain your nuts.
Add one table.
Add a spoon of sugar, or somefink. Whatever you can find.
Greash the oven.
Turn the cake tin 360 degrees and try not to fall over.
Don't forget to beat off the turner.
Finally, throw the bowl through the window, finish the Cose Juervo and make sure to put the stove in the wishdasher.
Cherry Mistmas !


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So, can't you still love and stand back and watch.


Yes, I know what you mean. I do think when it comes to the love between a couple that the woman wants you to have a certain standard for the person you accept into your life. I would think it would go both ways, but I can't answer for men.

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If the hurt person refuses to go and do the work in therapy and is just a lump feeling sorry for themselves would you go the extra mile for them


I have had to experience that with one of my children who has diabetes. It is so extremely hard and I have to cope with my anger b/c she won't do like "I" want her to do. If it were my S who was like that......oh, it scares me to think how little patience I would have! As for going the extra mile....it depends on how one sees it, but I have been there for her. I have forced her to take responsibility for taking care of her disease instead of just laying down to down and not put up a fight to live. By "forcing", I mean that I refuse to do it for her. (She's grown, BTW.) It's a long story about all of that, but I know what you are saying. Her dad, OTOH, approached it completely differently and would "baby" her, which I did not think was always the right thing to do. One thing to show compassion.....but you can't do it for them.
Bottom line.....we all show our love in different ways. My parents were the type to apply tough love, and I have done the same over the years.

You could probably get that book at the library. I think you'd like it. It isn't very long.

Have a good Christmas!




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