I grew up with an alcoholic mom...SO much arguing and fighting between us until all hours of the night while I was a teen. I did not realize that she was drunk.

Lesson learned at 19 - you can't reason or argue with a drunk.

When I finally related that to the sitch with my x (that he was going to justify any and everything), I finally started to get better and put up proper boundaries.

They don't have to actually be currently under-the-influence to perpetuate the crazy thought patterns, BTW...