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will try to stay out late...maybe brothers house or a movie. not into clubs or bars.


You don't have to go to bars. What were you into before you got M? Do you have a hobby or like sports? Go to the library and read some book like Dr. James Dobson's "Tough Love".

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Right now i so much want to talk about the R!! but i know thats wrong, don't pursue. In bed i so much want to caress and try fo ML, just to see. But I know thats the wrong thing to do.


Yes it is the wrong thing to do and please don't be like some men who get the advice and then come back and say what they did.....and then write (wrong thing I know)......why do it if you know it's the wrong thing? It's b/c emotions are ruling instead of the brain.

Look at that quote of yours I pasted. Do you see the desparation? You want to ML "just to see". I realize that men ML to fix the problem a lot of times.....but it won't work on this kind of problem and if you did ML you would probably be way too clingly & needy.....wanting your W to prove something to you.

What she needs to see is that you can move forward without her. Of course it will feel scary in the beginning b/c you are afraid of losing her. But don't you see that you are losing her for certain now? The way you are doing right now is not working. We are trying to tell you how to become more attractive to her so she will want you again. And, if she is crazy enough to throw that away, then you need to have the self-confidence to move ahead. You are not prepared for either at this point.



It is not about what you feel should work in your M. It is about doing the work that gets the right results. Do what works!