so??? which tactic do i use??? seems like i have a hard time exciting her at this point. She's really not showing her cards. She asked if we could maybe go to a movie tonite?? Most of the advice here seems to be GAL, etc...I don't like being the puppy dog with his nose pressed against the glass, but i have been doing this for a long time thinking that "mature" adults appreciate kindness , caring, stability,lovingness,etc... I know excitement is great, but in the end i thought loyalty counted for a lot. " look not for beauty nor color of skin, but look for a heart that is loyal within. For beauty fades as life grows old; but a heart that is loyal is as good as gold!"