ANYONE who considers someone who DBed AND got a divorce as a failure is just a noob, who doesn't know any better, the people who haven't put their time in, who haven't fixed themselves, who thought just getting the book or visiting the site would magically fix all their problems.

The people who feel like you failed KS, are the ones who are going to burn through other relationships and it will always be the others persons fault, in their mind.

The other points. Meh, its all personal perspective.

I will say this, Mach is one of my friends, I just haven't met him yet, and he is handling this better than I ever could. I believe he is a better man than I ever was, and I aspire to be like him.

Last edited by Jack_Three_Beans; 12/09/09 04:48 PM.

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