oh, before I read your posts SO2...

I did want to clarify, that I really don't know Tiger's sitch..haven't heard anything except that a woman or 2 came out.

And because I don't know his wife either, everything I said was just an assumption, or an example...so I have no idea what happened. I just wanted to show that just because we see these big things on the outside of the M, we have no idea what has happened on the inside, and what has been happening for years even.

I'll give another ex. My sis. she is a good person, and to make the story short, her H has lots of issues, has a problem holding down a job, resorts to alcohol, smokes pot too, doesn't know how to spend his money right..etc. BUT, I've heard my sis talk AT him. she is constently speaking loud, basically yelling and talking down at him. I don't think she realizes this, and I didn't think a whole lot of it before I read For Women Only, but then I noticed things. When she was away from him she would call him stupid, or an idiot.

So, my point is that she is just a part of the cycle. no matter who started the problem, no one is creating a solution, and therefore my sister is also a part of the problem. Instead of encouraging him to do better, she is pushing him down even further into his problem, and perhaps it was even her attitude towards him that had created his insufficiency? who really knows. There are many other things too, like she has no pride in herself or confidence, she's very heavy, obese actually, but doesn't do anything about it, and her house has always been mostly trashed.

and again, no matter who started what, the solution is for someone to break the cycle.


okay, gonna read your updates. that post was mostly for G


Me 33 H 34 S9 S3
M 6 yrs (2gether 11 yrs)
EA/PA 1/2006
DB 5/2006
H wants D 6/2006
H wants ME 8/2006
H "said" PA/EA over 8/2006
H erased OW off phone! 2/2007

"It is far better 2 choose humility & change oneself, than 2 wait in vain trying 2 chang someone else."