Originally Posted By: ssmguy
Originally Posted By: oldtimer
So, if I was to ask your W, she would say: "Yes, I am fully aware that my H has sex outside of our M?"


Well, first of all, she'd be chagrined that you know, because she expects me to keep quiet about it. And image is important to her. In fact, I asked her what she tells her gynecologist, because he knows she's married and isn't using birth control. And she tells him we use condoms. So she doesn't even want other people, not even her doctor, to know we have a sexless marriage.

So she wouldn't want to answer the question, and would consider it none of your business.

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Then why in the world would it not already be that you aren't operating under option (1), a freely chosen, happy, unresented, open M????


Because she doesn't want to know the details. But you could say it's there. But sitting down and talking about it is exactly what she doesn't want to do. Everyone here assumes she's willing to just sit down and talk about stuff, and my point is that's not the case. That's the biggest problem I've had for a long time.


You really are an evasive guy in extreme denial who can't even look at yourself.

If "you could say" that "a freely chosen, happy, unresented, open M" "was there" then you WOULD NOT BE HERE.

Suppose the oracle of delphi were to answer the question: Is SSM's wife participating in a freely chosen, happy, unresented, open M? The answer would be NO. Face it. Face yourself.

Be honest with W and quit you cheap, self-preserving, selfish excuses. It takes about 10 seconds for you to say to W: "W I have chosen to have sex outside our M and I have had sex outside the M." You can even email it to her.

As far as the teenagers, probably 15 year olds having sex isn't really good for them. Another important distinction is that THEY AREN'T MARRIED.


Best,
Oldtimer