So, if I was to ask your W, she would say: "Yes, I am fully aware that my H has sex outside of our M?"

Then why in the world would it not already be that you aren't operating under option (1), a freely chosen, happy, unresented, open M????

You have a very strange form of arrogance SSM. Your case is not special. Your knowledge is not special. Your inappropriate sexual talks with women outside your M are not special. You'd be hard pressed to find a man who doesn't understand that clitoral stimulation is important. Hard pressed to find a lonely sex-starved man who hasn't had frank sexual discussions with lonely women.

And, of course, stopping fcking others won't fix your M. But there is no chance of developing real physical/emotional intimacy with your W as long as you continue to screw others and feel justified doing it. Ridiculous. Tragic. Common. Pathetic. Indecent. Cruel. Ordinary. Childish. Egocentric. Stunted. Foolish. And those are the friendly words.

Don't get me wrong. I don't think that you are evil or irredeemable. I think you are a rather pitiful person in horrible pain. But you have got to drop the silly arrogance and the self-denial to get anywhere.


Best,
Oldtimer