braveheart I hear you, but I do think you can sometimes be hard and heartless in your replies to my post, dont take this the wrong way I appreciate your replies, I agree my ex is a lost cause and is lost in this world, but there must be a reason he as turned into what he as turned into, I merely post so other people can see if there are any comparisons to their own situations, I certainly can see in other peoples sitchs the similarities. I would if I could help this man, yes he as put me through a lot, but for me if you have loved someone for as long as I loved that man it merely doesnt go away overnight, even when people die you still continue your love and caring for them.