thanks for the replies folks, and yes I agree wholeheatedly with all of you. The sitch between aunt and ex I personally think is down to the wifey, and I dont say that because I am a bitch, I think aunt was getting too near the core of that damned woman, finding her out on her lies and deception that she wanted aunt out of the way so to speak, there is no money left with aunt and so she is no good to the wifey only a bind to have to do a bit of shopping for, and I think she is afraid aunt might bust her bubble and tell ex how she really sees his wifey. It all happened quickly aunt didnt make the phone call to ex until 9pm the night before her monies and shopping lists etc were posted through the letterbox at 10am the following morning, it is just like they couldnt wait to get shut of her, for whatever reason, I could blame wifey for this doing but it was ex who drove the car up to aunts and wifey posted the items through the door, they didnt even have the balls to take them to her, well as we say it is all his loss, and one day he may see the error of his ways, me forward I go, plenty of socialising to do and the festive period approaching !!!!!!!!!!!!