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Hey, Seren,
I wouldn't know where to start (will give it some thought), but Coach is right. A mother who was trying to minimize or totally excuse an adult son's behavior, has a whole treasure-trove of cliches to come up with.
But a mother who feels her son is "basically losing his mind," should be heeded.


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Hi Serenity, I havent posted to you before, but I just went back and found your original thread. I agree with Coach, this might be something to pay attention to. Im surprised that she would contact you this way, esp when issues like custody may come up at some point, this could be a fairly damning admission for her to bring to your attention. Do you think that shes expecting you do do something with this information?



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Hi Serenity


I didn't get to answer your question about Kyrie Eleison before.There are three parts to the Kyrie

Kyrie Eleison
Christe Eleison
Kyrie Eleison

It simply means - Lord have mercy, Christ have mercy, Lord have mercy.

Hope that helps!


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Hey Coach ~

I have tried but he won't talk about it...
To me or anyone else...
I knew the moment something happened because his emails to me changed (I still have all of them from when he was there)...
It wasn't anything I could pinpoint though and trust me I have tried - The tone of them changed...
He came back and bam retired as soon as he could - Didn't want a retirement party, didn't want any acknowledgement of the 20 years he spent in the service and he was always so proud of his work so of course in hindsight I see that something was wrong however as the time I believed him when he said he was just tired of the military, tired of moving every 3 years and tired of being deployed and away from his family.
Whatever happened there his Mother and I believe set off the MLC, I just wish I knew what it was.


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Gardener ~

I agree with you as well as Coach & Blue...But like I told Coach, he came back and never wanted to discuss what he saw over there...Wouldn't get any type of counseling either...I wish I knew but he won't tell anyone...

Blue ~
Thank you for coming and for what you said...
My MIL has been by my side from day one so whatever she says, she knows could be used against him...
I don't think it is something she is giving me to use as it is a view that she sees something isn't right with him.
If you knew him, truly knew him, you would be blown away by the changes he has exibited in the past 8 months.
For all intents and purposes, he is a complete 180 from the man we know and he won't talk to anyone who loves him...
He prefers to talk to the 2 women from his past because the way I see it, he can be the man he was when they knew him back when. All a lie I know but whatever he is running from is sure to catch up to him eventually.

Kara ~ Thank you for posting that - Yes it does help. smile


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Hi All ~

I hope this finds you all well...

I haven't had a chance to check out anyones situational changes because I just needed a break this weekend...

I needed to be away from here for awhile to just think...

All is well here and didn't do much over the weekend...

I did go and watch a football game yesterday as well as Church today...

My oldest was riding his bike home from the mall yesterday and a car (driving with no lights) hit him...He is ok though - Shaken up but no injuries - Thank God...

He actually got up and went to Church with me this morning.....

Spoke to my Pastor and S will be doing his 100 hours of community service at the Church...

Haven't heard from H but that really isn't a surprise....

I was watching a movie this morning before Church and heard the line - "He doesn't see you because he doesn't want the guilt that it brings"...Don't know what movie but the line was perfect and made sense when I think about mine not having anything to do with us.

Today is almost done and I am still standing, still doing, still moving forward...

Tomorrow is a new day and I look forward to what it may hold for me.

Have a great night all. (((Hugs))) smile


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Serenity,
There you are, with our usual impeccable timing: "well, I'll give one more look to see if Serenity's around," before logging out.

You sound good.
I am glad.
Good night.


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Originally Posted By: Serenity13
Hi All ~

I hope this finds you all well...

I haven't had a chance to check out anyones situational changes because I just needed a break this weekend...

I needed to be away from here for awhile to just think...

All is well here and didn't do much over the weekend...

I did go and watch a football game yesterday as well as Church today...


That's good to hear. It was quiet over here as well, got caught up on some old TV. Stayed away from here for the most part, but followed a few situations here and there.

Love Came Down: Perfect Time is this week's sermon at my church. You might enjoy it.

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My oldest was riding his bike home from the mall yesterday and a car (driving with no lights) hit him...He is ok though - Shaken up but no injuries - Thank God...

He actually got up and went to Church with me this morning.....


That's good to hear. Take care of him, make sure that he ends up going to the hospital if anything seems to crop up.


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M: 17 years T: 20 years
Bomb on 08/25/09
1/13/10: MC started
1/28/10, 2/8/10: More bombs
8/28/10: Wife moved out
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Originally Posted By: Serenity13
My oldest was riding his bike home from the mall yesterday and a car (driving with no lights) hit him...He is ok though - Shaken up but no injuries - Thank God...



Yikes! How scary. Glad he wasn't hurt badly.

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Serenity,

I am sorry to hear about what your mom said about your H. I am not diagnosing your husband, but PTSD is obviously common for veterans. My W was diagnosed with this and will not talk to a counselor about the event either. She just wants to sweep it under the rug even though she still gets flashbacks. This is common behavior. I don't know what you can do about it. But my IC did help me understand how that incident affected my W and her relationships with men. I use that understanding to help me forgive.

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Me: 36, W: 33, M: 10 yrs
Bomb: 1/09, Seperated: 9/09, Piecing Begins: 10/09

My story: http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubb...t=91&page=1
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