ssmguy, just a question...have you read No More Mr. Nice Guy, and/or do you know what this book is about?
You didn't respond to any part of my post that pointed out that if a man doesn't behave like an alpha male, women can't find their attraction to him.
I am not saying you are a Nice Guy or not, just wondering if you know what this part of my post is referring to.
I agree that there will be some men and some women who are LD/ND and who will not change no matter what their spouse does. But at the same time, I think there might be some glimmer of hope if their spouse makes some key changes they may not have thought of before. These key changes will usually not be the "reasons/excuses" a woman makes. In other words, she may say she needs a bigger house, a new career, more money, more help around the house, but she doesn't actually KNOW why she is LD/ND. She may believe she just needs more domestic help, but usually she really needs to feel her attraction, which she can't do if her husband isn't behaving like an alpha male.