Norm, FYI I haven't caught up on your sitch yet, but I will.

Just saw your post to Awoken re: AA & Al-Anon and agree completely. I've spoken often of my successful quitting without bashing the AA-12 Step myth, but after reading your post, I went off.
Though you might want to read a similar believer's (long) post.


Gardener

"My soul, be satisfied with flowers,
With fruit, with weeds even; but gather them
In the one garden you may call your own."
Cyrano deBergerac