Hey Cyrena, nice to see you back! Thanks for that, thats interesting and as you may have noticed, I always took the compassionate view of how he behaved and saw it in context of his depression.

Mish, I know you understand. I had temporary depression twice in my life and it was horrible (what the doc called "reactive depression"). It IS hard to understand, they call it "living outside the wall". My bf even said last night, he feels like he is behind a wall! Its hard to seek help and believe you can be helped?

Michelle, I agree. My bf's parents got D when he was 16. By age 10 his Mum was having a PA with his Dads best friend.. in THEIR house. His Dad would discreetly go out and leave them together. Super wierd. His Dad went into a pit of despair until the D was settled, then my bf chose to go live with him at 18, to keep him company. I cant imagine what all that turmoil would do to you in your formative years.

John, maybe we are all capable of making bad choices, even with a good childhood! (Like me and my EA). But, my bf grew up with two depressed parents in a fairly business like M (MIL told me she knew walking down the aisle it was a mistake, she didnt love his Dad). She was also domineering and used to hit him alot as a small child because, probably because she was depressed and not coping. EVERYTHING was swept under the carpet. I think you can turn in on yourself in that type of atmosphere and not learn good coping mechanisms or even how to talk and resolve things. Perhaps it was the same for your W?