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It's not so much about knowing the name of each fish on the picture card but understanding the ecosystem. If you know a little about how the fish live, where they live, and what they do then you will be able to take in so much more. You will be able to be more proactive in your searches.

After a trip to AU then HA, I started reading up about reefs and got into sw reef aquariums for a while. My next trips, I was able to really get into what I saw and even anticipate where to look. It was fun to take the kids into shallow water and tell them about stuff.

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Hmm...I still don't know what to do for Thanksgiving. I've got an invite to spend it with some other people.


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If you're not gonna have your kids over Thanksgiving, then spend it with those other people that invited you. Sounds like an enjoyable time. I myself am gonna be working that day, but I get off at 7p and I'm planning on spending some time with the kiddos that evening.


"Always go straight forward, and if you meet the devil, cut him in two and go between the pieces." - William Sturgis, clipper ship captain, 1830's.
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Ughh....

Well no matter how emotionally divested I thought I was, I still wasn't ready for this one.

The she sent an email saying she's been seeing someone for several months and feels like it's time to take it to the next level. She will be introducing him to the kids and having him around more. (We agreed we would be careful about introducing bf and gf to the kids). He invited her on a short vacation during Thanksgiving holiday, she might go, so I might have the kids a few extra days.

My only response back was "Got it." I haven't been very verbose on any email lately but I'm not sure I have anything to say anyway.

This is first mention of another person. Anyway, I knew she was a lot further along on meeting and dating than I was. She checked out of the M long ago. I've only been out with friends but haven't dated anyone yet - I'll get there when I get there.


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Oof, odog, I feel for you. I had been feeling pretty good myself today until I read your post, and realized we will all be going through this phase..

You'll get to dating when you get there is correct, but I believe you shouldn't hold back and wait until you feel your ready. Why not try to go on a few dates soon? They don't have to wind up being romantic, but you may meet some new friends, and help move you forward towards more healing.

Stay strong man..


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On board the D train now..

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I'm sorry O'dog...I know it hurts. This is something that we're all gonna experience sooner or later...so maybe at that time, you can give us advice! smile

I thought your response was great. Leave it be.

You're right on this too...they are a lot further along because they checked out of the marriage long ago...while we continued to do everything within our power to save it and keep our families together.

You are a good man.


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O'Dog, I'm calling out all the troops to give me their take on the total mindf*ck I got tonight.
Thx.


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"My soul, be satisfied with flowers,
With fruit, with weeds even; but gather them
In the one garden you may call your own."
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Thanks.

When I picked up kids today I asked them about their day. D went on about what a crazy morning it was. The she needed a ride to airport and kids need to get to school but they got locked out of the house. Luckily om showed up to give them a ride as planned and they were able to get into the house with HIS key. Ugh...another punch in the gut. I didn't ask anything about it. Trying not to think about it.

I did my part. I tried to keep family together. Once again trying not to think about it.


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It all shows how much more involved she was with OM than she let on. No wonder you couldn't save the marriage. It's like trying to bail out the Titanic with a bucket.

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You fought your heart out O'dog...you can look your kids in the eyes and honestly tell them that you tried with everything you had to keep your family together.

The lies and deceit of some of these people are nothing short of incredible...and they are able to justify and rationalize to themselves that what they did is OK! If anybody else deceived you to this degree...you'd drop them like a hot rock...and you wouldn't think about it anymore!


"Always go straight forward, and if you meet the devil, cut him in two and go between the pieces." - William Sturgis, clipper ship captain, 1830's.
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