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You're right I DO know that.
I also know that just because something is hard you don't give up.

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Psychiatrist told me yesterday just keep showing her somehow you love her.


Good for him.
Is he familiar with Divorce Busting or Divorce Remedy or Michele Weiner-Davis's works?



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Is your therapist familiar with Einstein and his definition of insanity.....keep doing what you are doing expecting different results...lol. Seriously Ayk, you keep trying and she keeps rebutting your efforts.

She also keeps mentioning your cell and insurance. Have you made steps to get those paid or in your own name? If I was her, I would be thinking "The usually Ayk crud....trying to make me happy and fix my problems while ignoring his". By the way...I did the same thing at first until I had a very heated and belittling conversation with my wife about doing stuff for her and not getting my own crap taken care of. So there in the heat of battle she is telling you something that is bothering her, but you haven't taken care of it.

I am really wondering about your therapist. For two reasons;
1)The suggested breach confidentiality (FYI-Therapy is much better if you realize your problems yourself...not by being told what your problems are)
2) suggesting that you continue on your current path of trying to protect her while she plainly tells you not too.

The path is there Ayk...you just need to open your eyes and see it.


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That's just retribution BS.

She pays me back the $31000 plus she stole from me, then I might pay my cell phone.

The insurance she's talking about is medical insurance and until D is final I'm covered, she needs to talk to her atty, because I talked to mine.

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Like to tell her how much she basically has stolen from me, you know break it down for her, but I know it wouldn't do the selfish mlc'er any good.

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yeah the psychiatrist has both db books and has met michelle several times.

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he's trying to help me too. we're focusing on me. i'd be going back on my word on the financial bit. she just doesn't have any patience to understand the consequences, financially anyway. today is a holiday, i called the bank to cancel the overdraft protection, i'll do that tomorrow.

i really don't want her to go after spousal support. the c/s is high enough. phone bill if it doesn't cost anything, sure i'll switch it. my attitude if it costs money i'm not doing it. i am flat flipping broke, she left me $35 and i've slept everywhere but in jail, i don't have my clothes and i keep figuring something out.

i'm about ready to go off like a rocket on the abuse from her to her, but instead i'm venting here and turning the other cheek to her.

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Ayk,

Vent on brother.....sounds like a heck of a day.

Forget about the $31k..It sucks, but as Jack mentioned on my thread the other day...There is nothing to be gained there.

The phone thing......break it down to the basics. If you use it...it is yours....you should pay the bill and have the bill in your name. Remember that at the moment...there isn't a "we" any more. In my situation, our car became HER car. That is fine, but if things went much farther I would have to insist that she took complete responsibility for it. Same with your phone. The medical insurance....stay the course on that one. Until you are divorced then you stay on the policy. She paid for it before and is obligated to continue that payment until the court decides otherwise.

About going back on your financial word....You are hurting and did what was an honorable thing. The problem is you are not playing with an honorable person (at the moment). You wouldn't play cards with a bunch of guys that cheat and lose money every night? This is the same thing. As you said...she doesn't have the patience for the financial consequences. So it would be a huge 180 for you to let her feel the consequences of her decision. Make sense?


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I switched the phone and took over both the kids phones too. sales clerk used to be a clerk at family law, too funny, she gave some pointers.

now i can do a new ringer i have a couple choice ring tones for if mlc does ever call me.

I also tore up mlc's check she gave D for lunch money.

I'm getting angry and for sure getting this i'll show you attitude.

mlc is definately more worried about what the heck i'm doing.

if mlc drops me off her ins, it's a contempt of court, reread the petition. also means i can't drop myself off her car insurance either.

she's always felt the squeeze of money, guess she'll really feel it now, but kids aren't going to suffer.

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I don't contact her...

I've always been nice to her...

I've always provided the money...More and more i'm forgiving myself and going man the more things change the more they stay the same with her.

oh about the kids, i don't ask them stuff, they tell me, you kidding i don't want to know what the heck she's doing, she's already thrown me for enough of a loop.

i wonder if they remember all the crap they put they're spouse threw later on.

i know i wouldn't be liking myself if i was this mean to somebody and man you punch a bully in the nose they get the point and move on.

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I switched the phone and took over both the kids phones too. sales clerk used to be a clerk at family law, too funny, she gave some pointers.


Stop talking to other people about your situation. This is a no no.

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I also tore up mlc's check she gave D for lunch money.

Why? Don't give her anymore reasons to become angry. She has plenty, even if most are BS.

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I'm getting angry and for sure getting this i'll show you attitude.


This attitude will lead you to a place that your trying not to go.


Don't stand still.
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