I do not air other peoples stuff unless I know that they want it out there.
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Feeling badly for the kids...I still do not believe that Frank can afford to feel bad without getting mired in it. And while I did not feel bad for my kids, I will admit that I had very high hopes as to why.
Please explain????? Why?
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..I still do not believe that Frank can afford to feel bad without getting mired in it. And while I did not feel bad for my kids, I will admit that I had very high hopes as to why.
The thing is Jack, and yes I say this from experience, it is not a choice, you feel bad because you are a person of character and you cannot possibly sign those papers without a huge burden of sadness over your roles in the failure of your marriage and the loss of what we view as a pristine life for our children.
When you are the major cause of the divorce and the one who strayed, remorse just isnt a high point for ya is it?
Ian
I am going to stop trampling on Frank's thread with this.
I have to say I REALLY miss this type of discourse.
Explain why?
You mean why I do not think Frank needs to get mired in feeling badly?
Because he is so damn good at it. We are talking about the same Frank right?
OR why I did not feel badly for my kids and my high hopes?
My high hopes, maybe a pipe dream maybe not, involved a life beyond my wife with a wonderful woman and mother who didn't deserve to be hurt when my wife begged for her last chance. So when I caution people about dating before they are done...I actually know what I am talking about and the damage and pain they are capable of inflicting.
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The thing is Jack, and yes I say this from experience, it is not a choice, you feel bad because you are a person of character and you cannot possibly sign those papers without a huge burden of sadness over your roles in the failure of your marriage and the loss of what we view as a pristine life for our children.
Experience comes from our unique perspective, our perspective defines our reality, and our reality is our truth.
Signing papers...is just the legal, make the lawyers happy in my book. Brother, when I was done with her in...June 06? I was as far as I was concerned divorced.
That pristine marriage...that was simple not what we had. Neither me or my wife were very good parents up until that point. We loved our boys, but we were both selfish with our time, so when I say in all truth, I was a better awake father for this, I was far from sad.
But that is my experience.
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When you are the major cause of the divorce and the one who strayed, remorse just isnt a high point for ya is it?
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Seriously, did you mean to come off like a dickhead there?
Maybe I deserve that maybe I don't. I have done the time in my own head and kicked my own ass enough for the first marriage, but there was more than enough bad crap in it to cover all parties AND have enough left over for a picnic basket of crap sandwiches.
There is a huge difference between a straight WAH, or WAW, and an MLC WAS.
This reminds me of a joke.
AND this provisio was ADDED after I wrote it, so you COMPLETELY understand that I was refering ONLY to my first wife, and not you or any of the other f-ing amazing people here.
What do you call an LBS who won't listen, learn or improve themself?
Divorced.
Experience is a brutal teacher, but you learn. My God, do you learn. - C.S. Lewis
Life is usually all about how you handle Plan B. - Jack3Beans
Listen without defending; Speak without offending - FaithinAK