BTW, How exactly did you FAIL as a Stander? Because you talked to a girl at a bar. Please stop the pity parties already. Why do you need this attention?
Because it works? He's gotten over 80 posts to his thread today.
He appreciates everyone's analysis of his situation, thanks them for their responses, then he goes and does whatever he damn well wants. Lather, rinse, repeat.
You can keep trying to engage with him if you want. Me, I see plenty of other people who need help who might actually listen.
Me: 44, Wife: 39 M: 17 years T: 20 years Bomb on 08/25/09 1/13/10: MC started 1/28/10, 2/8/10: More bombs 8/28/10: Wife moved out No talk of D, no movement
Ok, so now yall know. I am also human. I let myself get caught up in the moment and totally enjoyed it. I didn't think I was human for so long. But I guess I am.
OMG. Kevin's human. Lets smash his spirits and talk about the devil and drinking and lets confuse him with a million things we think he should do instead of living life and enjoying himself. Kevin have you read this book yet, it might help......
RUIN HIM! RUIN HIM! RUIN HIM! He was smiling.
Even better lets contridict ourselves and tell him one thing one week and something different today. Woo Hoo. We rule at befuddling Kevin. Who knows maybe this woman was an alien sex fiend and plans on abducting Kevin so they can use him as a sex slave to help repopulate their alien race. And here we go telling Kevin he needs to question himself yet again. Jeez.
Enjoy yourself Kevin. Do what makes YOU happy. Do what you want and do it for yourself.
Thank you, Jesus, that I am not the only one that was thinking this.
But on the shots, Kev, NO WOMAN is worth the shots Kev. You know you have a long way to go yet - and you can recall how you've done or said things under the influence. You're a big boy and you get to decide, but I don't think this is the best idea at all.
Me 45, H 46, S 23, M 26, Together 30, Bomb 6-2-08, S 6-19-08; H left 12-29-08. H home 12-09, Still MLC in 2012! Me- I have my big girl panties on. Bring it.
BTW, How exactly did you FAIL as a Stander? Because you talked to a girl at a bar. Please stop the pity parties already. Why do you need this attention?
Because it works? He's gotten over 80 posts to his thread today.
He appreciates everyone's analysis of his situation, thanks them for their responses, then he goes and does whatever he damn well wants. Lather, rinse, repeat.
You can keep trying to engage with him if you want. Me, I see plenty of other people who need help who might actually listen.
Then go and help them and stop putting yourself through this agony. Really. Nothing to see here. Move along.
Me 45, H 46, S 23, M 26, Together 30, Bomb 6-2-08, S 6-19-08; H left 12-29-08. H home 12-09, Still MLC in 2012! Me- I have my big girl panties on. Bring it.
Me 36, W 37 M: 08/02/97 D13, D9 1st Bomb 02/08 Reconciled 04/08 2nd Bomb: 09/08 W filed for D 02/04/09 Separated 03/09 D dismissed 06/09/09 Still separated...
I guess I can't take chances with this sort of thing. I don't want it to turn back into what it used to be. I do have 2 sponsors now by the way. I just didn't call them.
Kev what the hell do you think sponsors are for? Have you told them what happened? Look I've been where you are with addiction, you think two drinks I can handle it...Sure today but two turns to three and if you had two shots I find it very hard to believe you didn't have any beer.
Please call your sponsors talk to them, LEARN from them.
Me:40 W: 39 T: 17 years M: 15 years S-9 D-6 D final 11/10/2009
"We are all faced with a series of great opportunities brilliantly disguised as insoluble problems."
VD, I actually don't really care for beer. But dually noted. I think I feel kind of funny calling a sponsor especially if I am with someone.
I talked to W tonight. D11 was sick and stayed home today. I also had my bank card lost/stolen, not sure which. I had to deal with that tonight. Someone tried to make withdrawals but luckily the system declined the transactions and the bank called me and issued me a new card.
Here is the conversation with W. Interesting response when I throw in the words "custody arrangements".
K4D: How is D11 doing W: she's ok K4D: Ok good K4D: Can you make D7 a car rider tomorrow W: ummm sure W: you're picking her up at 3:00? K4D: Ya. We are closed tomorrow apparently W: oh cool W: ok K4D: Not cool. Don't get paid W: send R a text tomorrow letting her know they dont need to pick up D11 too K4D: Someone stole my bank card also W: yeah well, 1 day is better than the 1 week i'm told i'm expected to take off after christmas W: oh no! K4D: So had to deal with that W: how did that happen? W: sorry to hear that K4D: Guess it fell out of my pocket somewhere K4D: Someone tried to make large withdrawals K4D: The bank called me. They are issuing a new card to me W: oh crap. how much money did you lose? W: oh good K4D: 5 to 7 business days W: that's a long time K4D: Ya W: did they get a lot of money? K4D: No K4D: The transactions were declined W: oh good K4D: I just don't have real access to my account right now K4D: So I am having to use a credit card for gas and food stuff W: means you have to carry cash, i guess? K4D: Ya W: ok K4D: The kids do have school tomorrow right? W: yes W: unfortunately. i know it would be nice for them to have the day with you K4D: What time does D11 get out? W: 4:00 W: is when you can expect her to get out W: at best K4D: That stinks. Go ahead and just leave D7 in the bell then W: oh ok K4D: Don't want to make 2 trips W: alright W: you could take her to mcd's. W: or the park K4D: Low on money right now K4D: Trying to save W: ahhh. yeah. know that feeling. i'm going to get a crappy paycheck tomorrow. this is going to be a crappy 2 weeks K4D: Ya. I guess I could take her to a park W: not out tonight? K4D: Was going to help some people move a couch and bed and I just got told they are gonna do it tomorrow W: oh K4D: So nothing else was planned tonight W: so can you pull up a calendar and we can have a quick polite convo about changing the exchange days and the holiday schedule W: or would you prefer i send it to you in email? K4D: I would prefer any kind of custody arrangements in email W: custody arrangements? seriously? W: ok W: so that's why you cancelled. i see K4D: No. That is not why I canceled K4D: But after thinking about it, I think it to be best that way K4D: Sunday night I had a great evening W: well since we aren't talking about the kids anymore. have a good night. K4D: Ok K4D: Good night
I guess she really was confused about Sunday night.
Kevin
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Me 36, W 37 M: 08/02/97 D13, D9 1st Bomb 02/08 Reconciled 04/08 2nd Bomb: 09/08 W filed for D 02/04/09 Separated 03/09 D dismissed 06/09/09 Still separated...
I'm not sure if this actually backfired or it is working like it is supposed to.
Kevin
Me 36, W 37 M: 08/02/97 D13, D9 1st Bomb 02/08 Reconciled 04/08 2nd Bomb: 09/08 W filed for D 02/04/09 Separated 03/09 D dismissed 06/09/09 Still separated...
I don't know your past with alcohol and I have never posted to your thread. If you are honest in saying that you only had two drinks, I would say that shows a pretty strong measure of "control". But if you are truly an alcoholic, you do have to be careful of getting back on the horse. Don't let it progress to more!
BTW, see your encounter for what it was. It was great to feel wanted again and that will help keep your spirits up. God knows I would love to feel that now too. But one night in a bar does not have a lot of meaning.
BTW, see your encounter for what it was. It was great to feel wanted again and that will help keep your spirits up. God knows I would love to feel that now too. But one night in a bar does not have a lot of meaning.
Yup. I think I was just overly excited because it has been so long since I felt like that.
Kevin
Me 36, W 37 M: 08/02/97 D13, D9 1st Bomb 02/08 Reconciled 04/08 2nd Bomb: 09/08 W filed for D 02/04/09 Separated 03/09 D dismissed 06/09/09 Still separated...