your post gives me some hope at a low point. Today I feel better about life and know I can go on. My H left me a nice voice mail thanking me as I found a hard to get wine he loves and left it in his car at his office. Tomorrow we go as a family to his father's funeral. I am so happy for your that your husband came to his senses. My H is very out of touch with his feelings. Mostly for myself, I want to be calm, non bitter, person but I do hope he can see the newer me. SO many mistakes. Your point about the R talk is well taken--I am afraid of making a mistake, saying the wrong thing--I basically dont know what to talk to him about anymore and I think I have been too didatic about the DB "rules". Its hard to communicate about much when you dont share your life anymore. After 2 years of deceit, I feel like I dont know the man well at all. I spent 9 months changing myself before he left and if that didnt move his heart--will anything now he is moved out? But, I have nothing to lose and everything to gain by trying. I know he is shocked by my lack of anger and pleasantness--. I cant yet wrap my mind around the OW'S H and grown children finding out or being told and some gut part of me thinks it might precipitate an opposite reaction where they are together all the time once they dont need to sneak around. I dont know if this is just a welling up of my own anxiety that makes me say this or a true intuition. I cant tell you how much your post has helped me to find peace whatever my outcome.