I meant understanding of the situation and of SP's part in it. It is inconsequential whether or not you or I excuse or understand her behavior. When you break it down to simplistic right vs. wrong in a situation involving two adult and clearly intelligent people, you do no one any justice. And yes, if the roles were reversed, I would say the same. I suppose victim is as victim does. I find this silly and not really constructive. We each have our individual challenges and we contribute and participate. To write off all of my own behavior because my husband is acting like an a**hole will serve me little or not at all. But, this is not my sitch and to each his/her own...This feels like a popularity contest between SP and his wife. Hands down, SP wins, so what? wink