Sorry K, I didnt mean that to sound quite so harsh! I know you are trying, but sometimes you said you find it hard and its not surprising hey? Its alot to get past, ALOT. I gues you could try at least, like you say... (nothing ventured, nothing gained etc!). If you dont try, then perhaps that would be self-sabotage? Whats the worst that could happen? You get hurt again? You've been there before and at least you know now, you'd be ok. You'd lose face/your pride? So what, we'll all be dead one day, noone will care then what you did/didnt do! Whats the best that could happen? You get a loving husband back and a father for your kids....