yes, I totally agree and I also know that for repair of the M that subject will need to come out and be addressed. My H is not there and I'm not sure if he ever will be. I feel he just wants to forget everything which is NOT what I ever would consider because I would never want to be back where we started in the first place. However, if he was willing to be honest, show empathy for his actions, confirm OW was out of picture and have a true desire to work on M then I think I would accept that. If not, then limboland still looms but I am moving on with or without.