Originally Posted By: mishka422
So does this mean that all you 'nice guy' types around here that have always been that way naturally have decided to do the opposite now because your w's couldn't appreciate it? That sounds pretty sad to me. No one ever said be a doormat, but just because your w's didn't appreciate the nice way they were treated doesn't mean there aren't plenty of other women in this world that would appreciate it because they never had it.

You see, every woman will see you differently based on her own experiences in the past.


I'm just saying......please don't get rid of those nice guy traits. There are so few men left in the world that are even kind, let alone genuinely nice.


They were nice guys on the outside but not on the inside,
they did those things because they didn't feel like they had enough value as is so they had to compensate by doing all these great things so that the people around them would notice and at the same time, these nice guys are hoping inside that they will be noticed for all their hard work and that their spouses will acknowledge for the great people they are and return the favor and since this isn't happening - why should you continue being a nice guy? You want to do nice things, you can do nice things just don't expect anything from anyone for it and don't believe your low value that you have to do those things.

Women say they appreciate "nice guys" but in reality, nice guys aren't attractive to alot of women, women prefer the "bad boy" type, someone who is confident, masculine, doesn't have to do "nice things" to make people like them because they don't care if people like them or not, they're confident in who they are, know they have high value and it's other people's losses if they don't like them or want them in their life. That's a very attractive attitude, nice guys don't exude that type of attitude and that's the part that needs to change.