Hello Kittyfish & Sandi2!

[BigJohn]

I don't see how your wives can see themselves as single when they are living under the same roofs as you guys. That galls me. Especially when I am sitting in an empty house, wishing I had my H back to share it with through thick and thin as we vowed.

This is something that pi$$es me off too. It's easy to be a fair weather spouse but as soon as we hit our first "rough patch"- like all Ms are bound to do- my W decides it's time to trade me in like an old used car for rotten b*$tard OM. So much for my W having my back through good times and bad. I'm pretty sure I can do better- a lot better.

They absolutely are not single if they are living in the same house as you, or not D. I know you are here because you want to save your marriages, but why not fight it in court for them to have to get a job to be able to afford their independent lives?

Hear in California, the Court can and will absolutely compel your spouse to obtain full-time employment to support themselves. This is heartening for men in similar situations to my own in that my W will not be sitting on her a$$ eating bonbons living off of obscene alimony payments while I slave away for the rest of my life. Along with the child custody situation, this was another rude surprise for my W who originally envisioned I'd get an East Coast Style screw job in the courts here. Turns out that in California equal rights for men is a good thing.